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Teenagers today are letting me down

I find out, not 12 hours later from my last statement..... that there was a kid in Pennsylvania shooting up his school and another girl in South Cal shooting another girl in the back of the head.....

What an utter complete let down.... I just can't understand it.... How people can think that way.... makes no sense at all.... none..... it just makes me sad and upset.

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maya12
Mar. 7th, 2001 06:44 pm (UTC)
When I was growing up (I think the same applies to you) and was teased and taunted, the only way to react was to strike back, but not in the way you see many kids do so now a days (as you aptly described in your posts). We struck back by bettering ourselves; by developing ourselves so that we could say "so there," but inadvertedly liking the changes that we made, if not the circumstances or triggers behind them.

It really does sadden me when I see that kids just can't find a viable outlet for their expressions, whether it be shame, humiliation, fear, hate. My best friends is a teacher at an elementary school in Toronto and she sees these kinds of intense negative emotions all the time. I think like most of the teaching staff there, she has built up a type of immunity to it.

I don't know where I'm going w/ this post, just to say the obvious I suppose, that alturism is waning.
joe_black
Mar. 8th, 2001 12:16 am (UTC)
Re:
Its okay.... I understand your point. In High School we embrased all the names we were called and took them as our own. We did the, 'but we liked being called that' - and truely it was an honor to be called a Frama by the country polk in our school. That meant that you were the goofiest bastard that walked the halways. (ahhh the memories!)... Anyway.... I knew I was better than what they said about me, and with that I could over come anything they would throw at me.

But it also makes me think of a guy I knew that didn't take it so well. He did get it worse than I did (I became someone people didn't mess with because they had no idea what I would do in retaliation I guess)... anyway, one day he had a panic attack at work, in the grocery store that even I worked at. He was out of school and work for a week... and he quit after that. Man, he took a lot of crap, more than I can even begin to claim, and he broke down... but he didn't even talk about bombs, killing or anything... unless it was the 'I'm going to kill you' that people shout when they are really angry as kids and don't mean it....

Its a tough period in someones life... I just want to know what happened in the world that teens are thinking violence is the way out? I never even thought of it. What in our culture has changed that drastically that in a few years it gets like this? Its not Marlyn Manson or Doom. I listen to him and play Quake and other such games (which are much better, and more violent than Doom). I want to know what it is! that is all..... I am so sad for everyone who has gotten involved with these events... everyone is affected, even the parents of the children....
maya12
Mar. 8th, 2001 08:06 pm (UTC)
I don't think it has to do w/ the music and video games we play that are violent in nature. Every era had their counterculture media ie. 1800s w/ Edgar Allen Poe, Bram Stoker, Lovecraft, etc...

It's something a lot more instrinsic than that, but of which i cannot accuratly pinpoint. A couple of years ago I took an American History (1960s to the present) course. My Prof then and whom I work for now, showed us clips from "Fight Club." He used that film to illustrate how a group of men derived pleasure from hurting. And he asked why? Why is such a film relevant and reflective of our time. I think the answer had to do w/ the need to feel - the need to have an anchor, a focus. These men enlisted in such a group b/c it gave them something tangible. Kids these days don't have an anchor, authenticity, or tangability to anything. It's like they live in a vaccumn whereby they don't see, or rather they don't understand the consequences to their actions. A German philosopher, Emile Durkhiem described this as "anomie".

I tend to ramble. My apologies.
joe_black
Mar. 8th, 2001 11:18 pm (UTC)
Fight Club
Your professor got that off the commentary from the movie, they said basically the same thing, that their lives were so void of meaning that only physical pain could give them that feeling of being alive and having meaning.

Yet, these teens aren't starting fight clubs.... they are shooting.... and like you said.... I can't accurately pinpoint what it is that we are lacking, or have that drives them to this.

My only guess is how the child was reared into the world, and how the parent bestowed love and morals upon the child. That is a major building block for everyone.

Not Linkin Park or Maryln Manson or video games...

A good parents can stop all of this from happening.

I had a disccusion with my co-workers, who by the way are much older than me (same age as my parents)... and they agree with me on that.

I don't know... I don't think I can ever figure it all out... Hopefully it is a phase that American Youth will grow out of. That this kind of horrible action will come to an end.
maya12
Mar. 9th, 2001 04:26 pm (UTC)
Re: Fight Club
Point taken. Yup he did take that from the commentary, but he added some more things to it that were relevant (can't remember). I could say a whole lot more but I won't. I had a Neo Nazi encounter today so I'm festering a bit in hatred.

Your points were valid...thanks.
joe_black
Mar. 9th, 2001 05:41 pm (UTC)
Re: Fight Club
understandable
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